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What Asians Listen To

By: svergara, Jun 13, 2008
Tags: Music |

Someone left an anonymous comment on my other blog last week, saying (in all caps) “HIP HOP IS THE VOICE OF THE FILIPINO AMERICAN YOUTH HAHAHAHA.” I wasn’t sure what the person was specifically writing about, but it reflected, probably fairly accurately, what many Pinoys in my generation listen to.

Or, for that matter, other Asians. A friend tells me that Asians formed “ninety percent” of the audience at the recently-concluded Kanye West concert in Sacramento. And I remember being dragged to some club in SoMa a year and a half ago — probably the last time I actually went “clubbing” — and emerging hours later, buzzed and vaguely puzzled at how I’d never in my life seen so many Asian people dancing to Black music before.

Of course, I shouldn’t have been surprised, because I’m a lot more familiar with the counter-example. At just about every indie concert I go to – say, Yo La Tengo’s three nights at the Fillmore, or Sonic Youth playing Daydream Nation in its entirety — and, I swear, I look around the crowd and see the same two other Asian guys almost every single time.

All of this shouldn’t matter, but it does, because it raises questions about race and its capacity to structure our beliefs, to organize our thinking. To assume that “indie music”, whatever it means, is always coded as ”white” seems wrong, but it’s an uncomfortable social fact. Race constantly pervades the ordinary, even in seemingly innocent ways. One’s musical preferences are themselves racialized and categorized, to the extent that “Filipino American” is automatically equated with “hiphop fan”. You might say, no, the music I like has more to do with where I grew up, and who I hung out with, but surely that’s an aftereffect of race as well.

So, has “the voice of the Filipino American youth” really become hiphop by default? And if you, the Asian reader, happens to be an indie / metal / hardcore / punk fan, does it feel awkward to be one of the few people of color at a concert?

Comments

  1. Perhaps the luxurious trappings that hiphop music more often extols-blingbling,gorgeous men/women,fancy cars-and the tough-guy-survivor-of-ten-gun-assault-encounters veneer contributes by some considerable measure to its appeal over a significant number of Filipinos, particularly the C to E economic class. Fame, glory and the rags-to-riches story are but irresistible thematic nuggets for the economically-challeged not to latch on.

    –JB Santos on Jun 19, 2008

  2. Hey Sunny, I’ve had other Filipino Americans tell me that because I don’t listen to Hiphop, that my belonging to the Fil Am community would be questioned. No one has given me any good reason for this except that “Filipinos listen to Hiphop.” That’s kind of not well thought out enough for me.

    I am sure I am not the only Fil Am who goes to Nine Inch Nails shows. And I am sure we won’t be the only Fil Am’s at the upcoming Journey show. I am sure some Fil Am’s will be Philippine flag waving. (Side note: I wonder if Arnel Pineda’s being everywhere we look will change this “Filipinos listen to Hiphop” thing. If anything, let’s look at his musical background and see how similar this exposure to rock and roll is to our musical upbringing…)

    You know, after attending a few Pinoisepop shows over the last few years, I see that the alternative rock and punk scene is filled with young(ish) API’s who are finding a voice within these scenes. I think people conveniently forget that punk rock is also a place for political dissent, and a voice of the people. I think maybe because punk rock seems more class-based than ethnicity/identity politics-based (like Hiphop) that folks forget about that political dissent part.

    –Barbara Jane Reyes on Jun 20, 2008

  3. Your column raises some interesting issues that happen to be near to my heart. As a hapa who grew up largely in and around Oakland Chinatown, I really struggled for acceptance in my group of almost exclusively “pure” API friends. I listened to mainstream hip hop and R n’ B for most of my youth, but as I got older I got the urge to expand my horizons. I started listening to rock music, watching indie films and reading literature and graphic novels — all things that were coded “white” by my friends (and, up until that point, myself as well). It almost became an issue of loyalty (more internally, I think, than it was to my friends). It’s great to see someone writing about this and it probably raises some interesting questions about community activism and elitism and all that good stuff.

    –Ben on Jun 24, 2008

  4. JB: not sure what you mean by “C to E economic class” (though I know what it means more or less in the Philippine context, and the E class there sure wouldn’t be watching many hiphop videos). You’re quite right in the sense that the allure of bling and aggressive masculinity is particularly seductive — but it still doesn’t fully explain the central question, i.e., why Filipinos, and the fact that hiphop’s audience cuts across classes. Some more for me to think about — thanks for the comments!

    –Sunny Vergara on Jun 26, 2008

  5. Barb: a former Filipino student of mine was/is in a hardcore / punk band and had wanted to do a class project about feeling outside of the scene because of his ethnicity / race. He wanted to focus not just on punk being coded as “white” and his “odd” place within it, but on the *pressure* exerted upon him by his Filipino peers to immerse himself in hiphop — probably along the same lines you report.

    I haven’t read Paul Gilroy in a while, but he has a great discussion of The Clash’s “White Riot” (”I wanna riot / White riot / A riot of my own”) — a perfect summation of punk’s intersection with class *and* race.

    –svergara on Jun 27, 2008

  6. Ben: I’m going to run away with your comment and use some ideas for a future column — stay tuned! =)

    –svergara on Jun 27, 2008

  7. You’ve pretty much hit the nail on the head with this one - Being a Filipino teenager myself, I’ve gotten a lot of weird looks from fellow Filipinos and other Asians I know based on my taste in music and my tendency to prefer indie movies to big-budget blockbusters half of the time I’m at the cinema.

    It’s not very awkward being a coloured person at a concert, as there are a couple of other people of colour there too, but rather, from the way I see it, it’s extremely awkward being a teenager who mainly likes noise, “indie” (ugh, I hate considering it a genre - it’s more of an umbrella of the multiple independent musical scenes) and underground/left-of-the-dial hip-hop who is always pressured to be like the other Filipin0/Filipino-Australian/Asian youth and listen to, ahem, commercial hip-hop and rap and dress like a rapper/gangster by my peers. Even my parents think that I listen to hip-hop and rap exclusively like my cousin, despite the fact that he’s beginning to branch out into much more tolerable musical territory, and my mum has, on several occasions, checked out my music collection, only to have a puzzled or weirded-out look on her face when she listens to my iPod. My dad has had similar reactions, but is a bit more forgiving and patient. Most of my other friends, however, have been way more forgiving towards me in terms of music taste, and have not raised any concern towards me about listening to stuff that would usually be coded “white”, as far as I know.

    –Jon on Jul 03, 2008

  8. Jon: Thanks very much for your comment — Filipinos in Australia are a mystery to me. Not that they’re mysterious or anything, but I know very little about the population’s demographics. I’m curious now as to whether hip-hop really is just a generational thing. (Apparently I have a nephew who is a rapper — in Berne, of all places.)

    –svergara on Jul 04, 2008

  9. What I have come to understand in my experience thus far as one of those “marginalized” Fil-Ams in hardcore punk (or as the vegan, straight edge guy at the Blue Scholars show)…

    The contradiction of being a person of color performing “white”(punk) music begins to synthesize during the process of asserting legitimacy of ethnic/racial identity within the confines of an ostensibly hostile environment…
    White punks are forced to reconcile with the fact that people of color can play “their” music just as well (or possibly even better) then them and that POC DO NOT need validation from white people in order to be “punk”. On the other hand people of color are forced to reconcile with the reality that hip-hop (as well as other genres of music associated with people of color) is not the only music on the planet when they witness images and aesthetics of their racial/ethnic identity reflected back at them on stage in the form of spoken native tongues and brown skin couple with the cacophony of guitar based music.

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    –Joshua xxx on Aug 19, 2008

  10. Doesn’t surprise me that the supporters of the “Open Letter to Bebot” continue to misunderstand hip hop culture as having a class based component akin to punk culture. Instead of discussing popular music genres as discreet categories; wouldn’t it be more interesting or productive to look at the shared elements rather than pitting race and ethnicity at the forefront. Indie also applies to hip hop cultures and is not exclusively reserved for “white” alt. rock crowds. Get with it.

    –Whatever on Aug 21, 2008

  11. Joshua — my original draft of this post actually had an entire paragraph about *you*, but I just couldn’t work it in properly. =) I really liked what you wrote about white punks — not something I’ve really thought of before. But do you see more POC getting into more hardcore now than before though?

    –svergara on Aug 26, 2008

  12. Whatever: I’m only one out of that good handful of signatories on that Bebot letter, so I really don’t know what the other folks think about hip hop and punk. I do agree with the importance of looking at those shared elements of hip hop and punk (as Joshua also writes above), but quite frankly I can’t imagine thinking of hip hop *without* putting race and ethnicity in the forefront. And what this has to do with that Bebot letter is not clear either.

    That “Open Letter to Bebot” that Whatever mentions is here, reproduced on my old blog — http://www.thewilyfilipino.com/blog/archives/000881.html — but I would be completely remiss if I didn’t include Gladys’ original blog post that got us all thinking in the first place: http://lechappee.blogspot.com/2006/08/black-eyed-peas-video-bebot.html.

    –svergara on Aug 26, 2008

  13. What is has to do with the “Open Letter to Bebot” is the application of quasi-literary criticism techniques to hip hop culture (which obviously was a total mishap). It’s no wonder people who get hip hop culture did not undersign the letter. That’s the connection.

    –Whatever on Aug 31, 2008

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